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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike51 View Post
    I just find it interesting we threw more out of flexbone than shotgun option... you'd think being in the gun would correlate to increased passing. Granted this was just total yards and not attempts but I think it speaks to my point.

    What I also notice is we need to find a true dual QB... like Shaw.
    The other thing about the flexbone QB's listed is that they all were smart, knew how to run the offense and could make the pitch. Oh they also had the option to audible and change the play .

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    Quote Originally Posted by half-n-half View Post
    I’ve never once said I want us to be like LSU (although who could really oppose that right now I don’t know) but all this talk abo how we won’t be able to get top notch OL, NFL WR’s and all that is funny to me. Last time I checked we wouldn’t be going up against NFL DL and DB’s. It’s all relative.

    Coaching matters. Doesn’t matter what offense it is. A well coached offense will work and a bad one won’t. That’s why you see Air Raids that work and Air Raids that dont. Option offense that work and option offenses that don’t. “Balanced” offenses that work and balanced offense that don’t. We can recruit for any system RELEVANT to our peers. So get a good staff and we can have a good offense of any kind. That’s not even a debatable fact.

    And yes anybody who says otherwise is saying Ga State is a better place to be than Ga Southern because they have been able to recruit pro style passers, dial threat QB’s, really good WR’s, etc. So we can’t?
    "Relevant to our peers." That's the problem. Look at the bulk of our peers in the Sun Belt. They inhale vigorously pond water.

    And no, we're not going to beat out the brand name schools in recruiting. So even if we recruit on a level with Sun Belt and lower level FCS schools, if we're chasing the same leftovers they are we're getting the same leftovers they are.

    The real option (not this squirtgun pistol stuff) gave us an edge because it enabled us to recruit great athletes nobody else wanted. We basically shot the horse we rode to six titles and then decided to finagle it with Willie Fritz, who right now trails Navy in the AAC standings.

    And we're somewhere in the Sun Belt, living off past glory and the occasional win over someone like Appy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmothemoose View Post
    "Relevant to our peers." That's the problem. Look at the bulk of our peers in the Sun Belt. They inhale vigorously pond water.

    And no, we're not going to beat out the brand name schools in recruiting. So even if we recruit on a level with Sun Belt and lower level FCS schools, if we're chasing the same leftovers they are we're getting the same leftovers they are.

    The real option (not this squirtgun pistol stuff) gave us an edge because it enabled us to recruit great athletes nobody else wanted. We basically shot the horse we rode to six titles and then decided to finagle it with Willie Fritz, who right now trails Navy in the AAC standings.

    And we're somewhere in the Sun Belt, living off past glory and the occasional win over someone like Appy.
    I think you either over estimate our stock or under estimate other teams in the SBC. Troy, App, La La, ULM, Ark St, GState... do those teams inhale pond water?

    USA and Texas State are the only 2 teams not at the same level right now. I'd take anyone else from the conference and put them up against ANY G5 team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike51 View Post
    Top 10 passers (single season)
    1. Henton 1852
    2. Clark 1808
    3. Chapple 1774
    4. Ham. 1772
    5. Ham 1694
    6. Gross 1534
    7. Shaw 1476
    8. Ham 1405
    9. Hill 1262
    10. Revere 1247
    Just a note, none of the QB stats pre-2002 have playoff games included.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete4256 View Post
    Yes, and teams throw more in general now than they did "back then" in the '80s and '90s. "We can throw better from the gun" is a myth. Of course, I wouldn't necessarily want a flexbone offense that didn't have a (shotgun) package for throwing the ball in passing situations, which we had in 2011.

    We should be recruiting QBs like Shaw, and we should also be recruiting QBs like Jayson Foster. Both fit the mold of "most dynamic QBs under 6'1" that we can find."

    I really liked the mix of Gun and Flex we ran in 2011 with Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmothemoose View Post
    "Relevant to our peers." That's the problem. Look at the bulk of our peers in the Sun Belt. They inhale vigorously pond water.

    And no, we're not going to beat out the brand name schools in recruiting. So even if we recruit on a level with Sun Belt and lower level FCS schools, if we're chasing the same leftovers they are we're getting the same leftovers they are.

    The real option (not this squirtgun pistol stuff) gave us an edge because it enabled us to recruit great athletes nobody else wanted. We basically shot the horse we rode to six titles and then decided to finagle it with Willie Fritz, who right now trails Navy in the AAC standings.

    And we're somewhere in the Sun Belt, living off past glory and the occasional win over someone like Appy.
    Let me put it to you this way, Elmo....everyone in the Sun Belt except South Alabama and Texas State are equivalent to a top 5 or 10 FCS per Sagarin. That same FCS you claim isn't watered down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Eagle View Post
    I really liked the mix of Gun and Flex we ran in 2011 with Shaw
    Yes, me too. It's interesting how the service academies have almost completely dialed back all the gun stuff over the last couple of years, though.

    Do they know something we don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglewraith View Post
    Just a note, none of the QB stats pre-2002 have playoff games included.
    Just further proves my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmothemoose View Post
    "Relevant to our peers." That's the problem. Look at the bulk of our peers in the Sun Belt. They inhale vigorously pond water.

    And no, we're not going to beat out the brand name schools in recruiting. So even if we recruit on a level with Sun Belt and lower level FCS schools, if we're chasing the same leftovers they are we're getting the same leftovers they are.

    The real option (not this squirtgun pistol stuff) gave us an edge because it enabled us to recruit great athletes nobody else wanted. We basically shot the horse we rode to six titles and then decided to finagle it with Willie Fritz, who right now trails Navy in the AAC standings.

    And we're somewhere in the Sun Belt, living off past glory and the occasional win over someone like Appy.
    “The real option” didn’t bring us a title since the turn of the century (yes, I realize we didn’t run it every single year) so I don’t blame anybody that wanted to do more as we moved to a higher classification and WF proved it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmothemoose View Post
    "Relevant to our peers." That's the problem. Look at the bulk of our peers in the Sun Belt. They inhale vigorously pond water.

    And no, we're not going to beat out the brand name schools in recruiting. So even if we recruit on a level with Sun Belt and lower level FCS schools, if we're chasing the same leftovers they are we're getting the same leftovers they are.

    The real option (not this squirtgun pistol stuff) gave us an edge because it enabled us to recruit great athletes nobody else wanted. We basically shot the horse we rode to six titles and then decided to finagle it with Willie Fritz, who right now trails Navy in the AAC standings.

    And we're somewhere in the Sun Belt, living off past glory and the occasional win over someone like Appy.

    I consider our peers to be any G5 team not in the AAC.
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