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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBleedsBlue View Post
    I don't know if #4 should be retired for Jayson Foster or not, but at the very least it could be restricted it to players whom the coaching staff think are going to be special leaders. Kevin Ellison, Shai Werts, Monquavion Brinson, etc.
    JOE "but at the very least it could be restricted it to players whom the coaching staff think are going to be special leaders. Kevin Ellison, Shai Werts, Monquavion Brinson, etc"


    I don't think that would work. You could have a coach that goes 6-6 each year and the coaching staff choose one of them as special leaders without putting up the numbers as did Tracy & AP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TALON View Post
    JOE "but at the very least it could be restricted it to players whom the coaching staff think are going to be special leaders. Kevin Ellison, Shai Werts, Monquavion Brinson, etc"


    I don't think that would work. You could have a coach that goes 6-6 each year and the coaching staff choose one of them as special leaders without putting up the numbers as did Tracy & AP.
    My roommate was an equipment mgr and he "acquired" some great football practice shirts and etc for us that were extra like the drive for 5 shirts. Nothing big. But there was a practice in the early to mid 90s where another equipment mgr gave out a #8 mesh jersey to wear that he found in the back. Well Tracy happened to be at that practice and flipped his shi%. Went completely off as he should and took the jersey off that player and threw it to my roommate and said noone wears number 8. Apparently this was buried deep and the new mgr dug in a box that was labeled not for use etc. anyway, My roommate gave it away..... now who knows if ham ever wore this back in the day but my buddy 1peat has a nice piece of memorabilia and a cool story.

    This has nothing to do with anything other than its a jersey story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasouthern01 View Post
    My roommate was an equipment mgr and he "acquired" some great football practice shirts and etc for us that were extra like the drive for 5 shirts. Nothing big. But there was a practice in the early to mid 90s where another equipment mgr gave out a #8 mesh jersey to wear that he found in the back. Well Tracy happened to be at that practice and flipped his shi%. Went completely off as he should and took the jersey off that player and threw it to my roommate and said noone wears number 8. Apparently this was buried deep and the new mgr dug in a box that was labeled not for use etc. anyway, My roommate gave it away..... now who knows if ham ever wore this back in the day but my buddy 1peat has a nice piece of memorabilia and a cool story.

    This has nothing to do with anything other than its a jersey story.
    If that was true then Ham went overboard - "IF"that was true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TALON View Post
    If that was true then Ham went overboard - "IF"that was true!
    Yeah thatís pretty weird.

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    The roommate isn't a poster here but it's true. Remember Ham was in the Boro around that time. He was in grad school at some point wasn't he? Tracy used to play open gym at Marvin Pittman and he was there regularly. Eagle95 surely remembers Ham playing basketball as well.

    Not sure what that equipment manager was thinking, obviously was not!! I don't believe his jersey was officially retired yet but it was never used. He or she just grabbed the practice jersey thinking it was no big deal, it's just practice after all.
    No longer eating crow for saying "The TO is gone get over it!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1peatfor7 View Post
    it's just practice after all.
    Is practice really important?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailgating fool View Post
    Is practice really important?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI
    Iím not quite sure, but I could swear he is trying to say something or another about practice.

    Or maybe heís just feeling cute. IDK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TALON View Post
    IMO Foster could have been the 2nd best QB we ever had, sadly coaching changes threw his QB chances of becoming that QB and developing his potential was to the fullest.


    Then you also have players like Raymond Gross.
    Passing yards 3,806 ( 2nd behind Ham.)-Played QB for 4 years 1987 1988 1989 1990, went to the playoffs each year, played in 3 1aa National Championship games winning 2, Helped lead the 1999 team to the first 15-0 record in 100 years. Thats also a very impressive.

    How about GSU receivers that get little credit at GSU like Andrews and Sharp.

    Raja Andrew who had 127 receptions from 2005 2006 2007 2008 - Andrews had 64 receptions in 2008 He had 2 single game highs of 10 in 2008 against The Citadel & 10 in 2008 against Samford. Andrews had 1,538 total receiving yard 300 behind Monty Sharp. Monty had 92 receptions from 1983 1984 1985 1986. Monty had 18 TDs while Andrews had 9 TDs
    ,Then you have Greg Hill with 6,678 offensive yards & Kevin Ellison 6,593 ranked 2 & 3 behind Tracy Ham.

    We had a lot of great QBs and players over the years.

    AS Pete stated - "There are Payton Award winners, and then are a top five players in the history of the subdivision. Thatís the difference between Jayson and Tracy/AP."
    Raymond Gross was this close- dropped my pen- to being the starting QB on 3 NC teams. If you are going to lower the standards for # retirement, start right there and then go to all the 3X all americans who were big time players on championship teams.

    The object of the game is to win, and Raymond Gross did that better than anybody who had ever played division 1 football until his wins record was broken over 20 years later. Gross should be in the College Football HOF, perhaps that is why his # isn't retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueballs View Post
    Raymond Gross was this close- dropped my pen- to being the starting QB on 3 NC teams. If you are going to lower the standards for # retirement, start right there and then go to all the 3X all americans who were big time players on championship teams.

    The object of the game is to win, and Raymond Gross did that better than anybody who had ever played division 1 football until his wins record was broken over 20 years later. Gross should be in the College Football HOF, perhaps that is why his # isn't retired.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueballs View Post
    Raymond Gross was this close- dropped my pen- to being the starting QB on 3 NC teams. If you are going to lower the standards for # retirement, start right there and then go to all the 3X all americans who were big time players on championship teams.

    The object of the game is to win, and Raymond Gross did that better than anybody who had ever played division 1 football until his wins record was broken over 20 years later. Gross should be in the College Football HOF, perhaps that is why his # isn't retired.
    blueballs - "Raymond Gross was this close- dropped my pen- to being the starting QB on 3 NC teams. If you are going to lower the standards for # retirement, start right there"


    TALON - As I mentioned in my earlier post - "IMO Foster could have been the 2nd best QB we ever had, sadly coaching changes threw his QB chances of becoming that QB and developing his potential was to the fullest. Then you also have players like Raymond Gross.
    Passing yards 3,806 ( 2nd behind Ham.)-Played QB for 4 years 1987 1988 1989 1990, went to the playoffs each year, played in 3 1aa National Championship games winning 2, Helped lead the 1999 team to the first 15-0 record in 100 years. Thats also a very impressive".

    I have to agree with you Blue Balls.
    Gross made the playoffs all 4 years he was our QB & did play in 3 NC games pushing Furman to the brink of a GSC NC in 1998 and then winning GSC teams 3 & 4 1aa NC under 2 different Head Coaches Erk and Stowers. IMO I dont think Stowers would have stood a chance without Erk's players and Gross as QB in 1990.
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