TrueGSU.com

Follow GSUFANS.com on
     
Page 12 of 14 FirstFirst ... 1011121314 LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 139

Thread: Paul Johnson to Retire??

  1. #111

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by eaglewraith View Post
    Depends on the OC. Collins is a defensive guy.

    Temple's offense wasn't exactly humming from the start under his tenure there.
    Nope. IIRC, the only time I’ve watched Temple play under him was the OT loss against Army last year. Great game.
    Thanks, Rastabot!
    www.247sports.com/porkchops

  2. #112

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob View Post
    Moron AD chooses more Chan Gailey mediocrity. Oh, well, their loss is our gain.

    James Graham, come on down!

    Please. Please. Please.
    Thanks, Rastabot!
    www.247sports.com/porkchops

  3. #113

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by StingingEagle View Post
    Or relax their admissions criteria for student athletes. They quit doing this in the Chan Gailey era. Either your GPA is between 3.7 - 3.9 with an SAT score of 1450, or you will never see the light of day, much less a football field.
    Try 4.0+. Hell, UGA's most recent incoming freshman class had an average high school GPA above a 4.0.

    But you're right, Tech will be a mediocre team at best as long as they keep their student-athletes academic requirements as high as standard students, doesn't matter what offense they run.

  4. Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by kdarnell233 View Post
    Try 4.0+. Hell, UGA's most recent incoming freshman class had an average high school GPA above a 4.0.

    But you're right, Tech will be a mediocre team at best as long as they keep their student-athletes academic requirements as high as standard students, doesn't matter what offense they run.
    They made it to the Orange Bowl a few years ago, I thought. Otherwise, you're somewhat right. Higher academic standards don't always translate into wins. That's why an equalizer offense is a better fit at a place like Tech. You try to beat people at their game when they've got an advantage and you probably won't.

    PJ had his moments. He'll go down as one of the greats. Or should, anyhow.
    “When you see someone putting on his Big Boots, you can be pretty sure that an Adventure is going to happen.”
    A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

  5. #115

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by elmothemoose View Post
    They made it to the Orange Bowl a few years ago, I thought. Otherwise, you're somewhat right. Higher academic standards don't always translate into wins. That's why an equalizer offense is a better fit at a place like Tech. You try to beat people at their game when they've got an advantage and you probably won't.

    PJ had his moments. He'll go down as one of the greats. Or should, anyhow.
    Yeah, I feel that Tech is about on a level playing field with everyone else in the middle-bottom of the ACC. They may have an advantage over Wake, but that's about it.

    They obviously aren't Clemson, FSU, or Miami. They're probably not UNC or VT, either (in terms of having a foundation for winning football).

    I don't know how Duke and BC slot into the ACC football pecking order, but I don't see how Tech should be "consistently better" than NCSU, UVA, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, et al.

    PJ did a very good job considering that context, but the recent losing seasons were understandably hard for their fans to follow. The highs were very high for a program like Tech's, however.

    Considering what he did at GS and Navy, he's a no-doubt CFB HoFer.
    Thanks, Rastabot!
    www.247sports.com/porkchops

  6. #116
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Evans, GA
    Posts
    18,060

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    I'm going to call BS on athletes at GT being held to the same requirements as regular students. According to this 2014 article, GT's football SAT scores are over 400 points less than regular students. It even says one guy got in with a score of 590. To be fair, their team still has an average score of over 1000, but the other 3 FBS teams in Georgia are not too far behind in the mid-900's.

    http://investigations.myajc.com/football-admissions/

  7. #117

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    I can pretty much guarantee you that there's no Power 5 program where the admissions standards are the same for athletes as the general student population. That's true for everything from Duke basketball, UCLA women's soccer, Stanford volleyball, and UC Berkeley football.

    Now the SAT admissions requirements specifically for athletes might be different at different schools, and some schools might have a freshman math or writing requirement that are tougher than others. And some schools (like Tech) don't have "General Studies" or "Recreation" degree programs.

    (Thanks for the link, Walt. Someone will have to show it to Ben Moore the next time he says their academic requirements for football players are more stringent than ours.)
    Last edited by BillyBob; 7th December 2018 at 06:44 PM.
    "Follow the trendlines, not the headlines." -Steven Pinker (?)

    Regarding football Scheduling.

  8. #118
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    8,700

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
    These days, my doormat could get a higher GPA from a public high school.
    That’s a pretty ignorant statement. I teach high school and I can guarantee you that’s not the case.

  9. #119

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt3412 View Post
    I'm going to call BS on athletes at GT being held to the same requirements as regular students. According to this 2014 article, GT's football SAT scores are over 400 points less than regular students. It even says one guy got in with a score of 590. To be fair, their team still has an average score of over 1000, but the other 3 FBS teams in Georgia are not too far behind in the mid-900's.

    http://investigations.myajc.com/football-admissions/
    What that article posts is standards, not requirements. There is a difference. No one said GT football players had to meet the same standards as regular students.

    Up until a few years ago 80% of GT football players were required to meet the minimum admissions requirements for GT. GT does not have a minimum standardized test requirement currently but does have a minimum GPA requirement. CPJ got that 80% rule dropped but they continued to recruit players who could succeed academically because he said he knew they'd just put the rule back if they started to have players flunking. That was reported in spring 2014 so I don't know if the 2014 or 2015 signing class was the first to go by the new guidelines.

    I posted about Stanford because they're always brought up for comparison when they have no minimum requirements, period. Neither does Duke or most other private school. Athletes do have to meet minimum NCAA requirements to play immediately, and lower requirements to redshirt. And here's the thing about that....they use a sliding scale. If you have a 3.55 GPA or higher, you only need to make a 400 on the SAT. If you have the minimum 2.0 GPA to redshirt you have to make an 1100. For a 3.0 GPA, you only need a 720 SAT.

    OK, so looking at GT with a 3.0-3.3 minimum GPA and compare with the article listings and you see in 2014 they were possibly getting freshmen with both high GPA and high SAT (relative to NCAA requirement and the rest of the state who could waive GPA requirements).

    But really, those standards say a lot. To be totally honest and not PC, think about being a good jock and visiting Tech. Think about what you'd probably see as the average student body and if that would sway you to go there over say a UGA or Ole Miss or something. So really it might be the standards just as much as the requirements.

  10. #120
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Hilton Head Is.
    Posts
    2,080

    Default Re: Paul Johnson to Retire??

    Quote Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
    These days, my doormat could get a higher GPA from a public high school.
    Don't broad-brush every school into your 'public high school dig. Yes there are some real stinkers out there, but if a kid really wants a good education he can get it anywhere. And I'm not a huge supporter of the status quo in today's public education...but there are some really good public schools out there.


    Bob Frye
    GSU fan since 2011
    ...father to a former Eagle great...
    husband to the mother of that former Eagle great...
    and I will have my vengence, in this life or the next!

    EKU class of 1984 Ind. Electronics Technology

Similar Threads

  1. Paul Johnson
    By eagle95 in forum The Flight Line
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 7th December 2014, 01:20 PM
  2. Paul Johnson
    By scotchtkh in forum The Flight Line
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 2nd September 2014, 07:43 PM
  3. Paul Johnson
    By WEAGLE in forum The Flight Line
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 4th January 2014, 12:53 PM
  4. Paul Johnson
    By eaglefan95 in forum The Flight Line
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 30th November 2009, 09:48 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •